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Which of these flatties from 2022 has the ugliest tits?

It’s humiliating enough to get exposed as a flat-chested woman with extremely embarrassing “tits” on the wall of shame of smalltitshumiliation.com for the whole world to see.

It’s also humiliating to have strangers insult you online, laugh about how lacking your boobs are and write analyses about your ugliness that will be online forever and could potentially be read by your parents, husband or kids.

But it’s even more humiliating to be compared to other ugly, flat-chested women online, have your tits rated and judged and be found to be extremely ugly even compared to hideous women with looks that make any hard cock shrink faster than an orgasm.

Reason enough to do precisely that and give these flatties the humiliation, degradation and laughter that they deserve.

All of these women have ugly tits, no self esteem and embarrassing sex stories

Let’s take a quick look in chronological order at all the flatties that were exposed on here in 2022.

Time for a vote – who has the ugliest tits?

Let’s take a vote and crown the flatty with the ugliest, most digusting tits.

Since these are some of the ugliest tits in the world, it’s hard to only choose one – so feel free to select up to three flatties.

But choose wisely: these poor “women” already lack any dignity and self esteem. Being voted as having the ugliest tits even among such a group will completely crush the “winner”.

Then again: That’s exactly what they deserve.

Share your reasoning in the comments

As always: feel free to share your reasoning why the flatty or flatties you chose have the ugliest tits even compared to other ugly flatties in the comments.

If your tits are as ugly as the tits of those flatties, it’s time for you to gather your courage and get exposed as well. Find out how.

68 – Can you guess which of these pictures shows this flatty in a padded bra? (part 2)

Option 1: Do you think this picture shows this flatty in a padded bra?

In the last post, we could already see how ridiculous flatty 68 looks like in a supposedly “sexy” outfit.

At least, the insulting post and comments have made her realize how unattractive she is.

I didn’t realize how flat I look from the front – I’m throwing out that dress.

– Flatty 68

Now, the time has come to continue her exposure. The next step: humiliating pictures of her in ridiculous underwear.

She is so flat that even a padded bra doesn’t make any difference at all

Option 2: Or does this picture include a padded bra?

For a woman with medium-sized tits, a padded bra – or even a push-up bra – can make the difference between looking okay-ish and looking reasonably hot.

Unfortunately, these bras have two disadvantages: obviously, the effect disappears once the woman gets naked. And, they only work if there are at least some tits to begin with.

Yet for a flatty with tiny mosquito bites as 68, the effect is essentially invisible. After seeing both pictures, I first thought that she had failed in her task and mistakenly sent two pictures without padded bras.

She looks “flat like a boy” no matter what she’s wearing

On both pictures, she looks like a boy. She doesn’t have any cleavage whatsoever.

But I’ll give you a hint.

Do you want to get exposed and humiliated as her? Then it’s time for you to gather your courage and face the truth.

If you look closely enough, you will be able to that her belly button is not the only place where she is pieced (as happens to be the case with many flatties, such as, for example, this one or this one).

If it weren’t for the fact that one of the “bras” is more see-through than the other, it would be completely impossible to distinguish them from each other.

Does seeing flatty 68 in underwear change your opinion of her?

As always, share your thoughts and insults in the comments. And check back soon to see her without the ridiculously looking bras.

68 – “I have been self-conscious about my breasts since puberty”

Flat-chested woman in a "sexy" outfit - unfortunately she is so flat that it is completely impossible to tell her gender based on a dressed picture
Based on this picture, you’d have a 50-50 chance of correctly guessing the gender of the person displayed on it

So far, flatty 68 seems to be well-behaved. Here is how she introduced herself in her first message:

I’m 29 years old and have been self-conscious about my breasts since puberty. I was teased, bullied, and harassed throughout school and into my adult life. Although I’ve been in the BDSM world for awhile, I’ve kept my small breast vulnerability in a taboo area of play as part of my greatest kink: humiliation. 

– Flatty 68

With her non-existent tits, she has more than enough reasons to be ashamed of her body

Flat-chested woman in a supposedly "sexy" outfit trying to make  her tits appear bigger than they are
From the side, her “tits” are just as unimpressive and non-existent as from the front

As her answers to the basic questions that all flatties need to answer make clear, she has more than enough reasons to be ashamed of her body.

What is your bra size?

“My bra size is 36B. I’ve always bought padded bras out of envy of my larger breasted friends. I’ve avoided going to the beach with them because I felt so inadequate.”

What is the most embarrassing/humiliating experience you ever had with your tiny “tits”?

“As far as stories go, there are plenty of embarrassing public scenarios that I’ve encountered, which have left me red in the face. Privately, I’ve always feared what reaction a guy will have when my bra comes off – my lie.

I’m basically catfishing, and the look of disappointment that flashes over their face gets imprinted in my mind every single fucking time. My worst experience was a kink one, where I had mentioned a soft-limit of small breast humiliation and he delivered the most vicious line I’ve ever received – “You’re flat like a boy, I might as well fuck you in the ass like one”. And he did, causing the verbal humiliation to blend with sodomizing me into an orgasmic bliss that I’ve yet to hit again.”

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What do you think about her completely unimpressive figure?

When I ordered her to send pictures in a “sexy outfit”, she sent the ridiculous pictures you can see in this post.

She is so flat that it is not even possible to tell her gender without seeing her face.

She looks like a complete joke and it is no wonder that many men only ever wanted to fuck her in the ass.

What do you think about these ridiculous pictures? Share your thoughts and insults in the comments.

And don’t forget to check back soon for pictures of her in underwear and, of course, naked.

67 – In high school, she was so desperate that she massaged her tits to make them grow (part 2)

Flat-chested woman ashamed of her non-existent breasts
It’s time to expose this flatty’s ugly and tiny tits to the whole world

In the last post, you could already read about this flatty’s flakiness, and her desperate attempts of dealing with the shame she feels about her small tits by trying to hide.

In the comments, she even made a desperate, half-hearted attempt and begged not to be exposed, only to add how excited she feels about her inevitable exposure.

And now, that time has come.

Before analyzing her “tits”, let’s hear about her experience in her own words

How old are you and what is your bra size?

I am 24. My bra size is a 34b, but I rarely wear bras.

When was the first time that you noticed your tits are smaller than they should be?

“I noticed my breasts are smaller than they should be when they never grew after I got my period. I got my period early at the age of 11, and ever since my tits pretty much stayed the size they were then.

I was proud to get my period and “become a woman” early, but then all the girls in my class started developing and growing breasts 3x the size of mine. I used to do daily massages and look up foods I could eat to grow them, but obviously it never worked.”

What is the most humiliating experience you had in relation to your small tits?

My most humiliating experience was when I was being fitted for a prom gown in high school, and the woman asked me if I wanted padding, but I said no. She looked at my chest and said “no, you want the padding.”

Every day I am reminded of how small my breasts are. Something as simple as noticing how they don’t move when I go over a speed bump in the car embarrasses me. Any time I’m supposed to look sexy, like in a bikini or a club dress, my face gets hot with embarrassment because I know every other woman will look better than me.”

Do you want to know if your tits are as small and ugly as hers? There is only one way to find out.

This is what it looks like when a flatty desperately tries to make its tits grow

Flat-chested woman with pierced nipples desperately trying to massage her tits to make them grow
How can a flatty be stupid enough to think that such a massage will suddenly make her non-existent tits grow?

Can you imagine how desperate she must have felt in high school, when other girls grew tits and she did not? So desperate that she tried massages. I instructed this flatty to take a picture of herself massaging her tits the way she did back then.

The hilarious outcome can be seen above.

But even if the massage had helped make her tits grow, she would still be an ugly cow. Her “tits” small size is not the only thing that is wrong with them.

Especially the first picture shows how asymmetrical they are. And they don’t just lack size, but also any real shape.

Like so many flatties, desperation drove her to get both of her nipples pierced in a laughable attempt to attract attention. But all it does is draw attention to her inadequacy.

Her pussy is equally ugly as her tits

Naked woman with small, pierced tits, standing in embarrassment in her chaotic room
Can you really believe that she was so blind to think this would be a reasonably good-looking picture?

Even worse for her, her “tits” are just one of her many defects. When I ordered her to send me a picture of her completely naked, this is what she sent.

But then – and I am not kidding you – she claimed this:

I feel like the front one isn’t unflattering enough to be embarrassing, would you like me to do a side profile or something else?

– Flatty 67

There are so many things wrong with this picture and her body that she must be blind if she is not embarrassed by it:

  • Her small, asymmetrical, unassuming “tits”
  • Her completely unwomanly body
  • The complete mess in her room
The unused pussy of a flat-chested woman who gets off on being shamed and humiliated
This is what the unused pussy of a flatty looks like

This close-up of her pussy reveals even more short-comings, even though she is clearly incapable of taking well-lit pictures.

The only thing that can be said in her defense is that she apparently realized how embarrassing these pictures actually are. Despite at first begging to be allowed to take even more humiliating ones, she deleted her account before she sent any more, out of shame and embarrassment.

Share your judgments about her tits, pussy and body in the comments

One could write an entire dissertation about the short-comings of this flatty.

Share your thoughts, observations and insults in the comments. Let’s make sure she feels the appropriate mountain of shame she deserves, and that she regrets her insubordinate, flaky behavior.

67 – This “scared little girl” keeps deleting her account out of shame (part 1)

Unfortunately, her naked tits look as unappealing and boring as this picture might suggest

In the dictionary under “shame”, there is probably a picture of this flatty. She first reached out to be, begging to be exposed and humiliated.

She sent the mandatory picture with “smalltitshumiliation.com” written on her flat chest that all flatties have to submit to get exposed.

Yet when I instructed her to send additional pictures, she had deleted her account.

After a few weeks, she came back, begging to get exposed again

But not much later, she regretted her decision and begged once more to get exposed:

Hi how are you? I sent you pictures of my flat tits to get myself exposed and humiliated a couple weeks ago, but then I was so embarrassed and ashamed that I deleted my account. However I can’t stop myself from checking your website pretty much every day, secretly hoping that you exposed me anyways. So I’m back. I need to face my fear and experience the deep embarrassment that I know I really need and deserve.

– Flatty 67

She was to pathetic and desperate for exposure that, when I didn’t immediately reply, she kept writing me, asking if I had gotten her message.

At first, I made her apologize for her misbehavior

An apology letter of a flat-chested woman for having deleted her account after having begged to get exposed and humiliated online for her inadequacy
This is the pathetic apology letter that flatty 67 has written after her first shame-attack

As an appropriate apology, I ordered her to write a few sentences in her nicest handwriting. This is the pathetic outcome of this exercise. At least – one might think – that she has finally learned her lesson and got her shame under control.

Yet, after she submitted some additional pictures of her tiny tits and unused pussy, she deleted her account once more.

Let her know what you think of her behavior and her ugly body in the comments

Let her know what you think of flaky flatties in the comments.

And come back soon. In the next post, I’ll tell about her ridiculous, embarrassing attempts in high school to make her tiny tits grow – and you’ll see some picture of her trying it again.

66 – “Re-enacting the scene humiliated me a lot and I had that feeling of shame again” (part 2)

This is what flatty 66 looks like when re-enacting one of her most humiliating high school experiences

In the last post, we could already read about flatty 66’s own self-assessment and her realization that she has small tits and an ugly face.

As promised, the time has now come to learn about her high school bullying, her masturbation habits and her sad, sexual history.

Let’s start by hearing about her bullying experience in high school

Here is how she describes her most humiliating experience in her own words:

Already in school I was always the flattest in our class, and also in all the other classes. I already had “breasts” at the age of 12, but they did not develop further since. 

Some guys once made a drawing on the blackboard: on the one side, there were large breasts with the subtitle “women’s breasts”. Next to it, there were two small points with the title “Saritha” (my name). That was very embarrassing and very humiliating

– Flatty 66
Not even when she is turning her back is it possible to forget how small and ugly her “tits” are

Even for a stranger, it is painful to think about how humiliated she must have felt as a young teenager.

Her entire class realized how inadequate her tits were, and they openly made fun of her by making humiliating – yet accurate – drawings of her most undeveloped body part on the blackboard, for everyone to see.

Her ugly, tiny tits clearly deserve all the laughter they received

These “tits” are an extremely ugly, uninviting sight

One thing becomes immediately clear from looking at her naked chest: all the laughter, humiliation and ridicule she received was completely justified.

In fact, she can consider herself lucky that she was not humiliated even further.

If the boys had seen her naked, they would not only have made fun of the size of her “tits”.

Were you also bullied because of your tiny tits? Then now is the time to get exposed and find out if you actually deserved it

They would also have found more than enough reason to laugh about her areola, which are too big for tits this small.

And most importantly, they would have laughed at her gigantic nipples, which look completely misplaced on her upper body.

“I was something like the slave of a slave”

When she is lying down, her tiny tits look even tinier

Despite being this ugly, flatty 66 so far had sex with twelve men and two women. Let’s hear about it in her own words:

I had sex with twelve men and two women. Except for the first few times, it was exclusively in a BDSM context, in which I took the obedient, subordinate role. That I get insulted and humiliated is self-evident.

The two women were submissive wives of men who wanted to live out their dominant side. So I was something like the slave of a slave.

– Flatty 66

In a “normal” context, nobody has any sexual interest in a flatty as ugly and inadequate as her. Only when she is willing to be humiliated and abused does she arouse any even remotely sexual interest in others.

It is no wonder that, given this, flatty 66 has become addicted to masturbation. Every day, she gets completely naked and masturbates.

It is a mystery how she can do that without getting completely turned off by the sight of her ugly chest.

Did you expect her tits to be this ugly?

What thoughts went through your mind when you saw the re-enactment of the humiliating drawing from her school time? What did you think when you saw her ugly, inadequate tits?

Share your thoughts and insults in the comments.

65 – Even with two nipple piercings, the tiny tits of this flat-chested woman are completely invisible (part 2)

Flat-chested woman with humiliating writing on her tits and two nipple piercings
No, cunt, the piercings don’t make your non-existent tits any more attractive

The whole internet already laughed at how ridiculous this dumb whore with no tits looks in underwear.

Now, it’s time to laugh at how ridiculous she looks naked.

Before reading about her psychological suffering due to her chest’s inadequacies, let’s quickly assess how ugly she really is.

Did you ever wonder if your tits are attractive or ugly? This guide sums up all the official criteria for rating tits

Her tits biggest shortcoming is clearly their size: they are almost non-existent.

They are not symmetrical: the left one on the picture is more saggy than the other one and pointing outwards.

Given their overall size, the areola also seem disproportionately big and the left one is covered in pimples.

Without piercings and humiliating writing, her “tits” would be invisible. But even with both, her upper body is nothing more than a shrine shame, embarrassment and inadequacy.

“All of my friends have bigger tits than I do”

Flat-chested woman covering her naked tits with her hands out of embarrassment and shame
If you hadn’t seen the picture above, you couldn’t possibly tell whether there are any tits underneath her hands

Let’s hear how she herself views her own inadequacies.

When did you first realize that your “tits” are smaller than they should be?

“I first realized my tits are too small when I realized I don’t relate to the pain described by my friends when they are running or using stairs. All of my friends have bigger tits than I do, and sometimes they make fun of me for it. They all talk about things that I can’t really understand because big tits aren’t something I have.”

What was your most humiliating experience related to your small tits?

“My most humiliating moment was when I tried to give a guy a tit job and his dick was bigger than the mosquito bites that are my nonexistent ‘boobs’.”

Tell us a bit more about your sex life and how getting exposed makes you feel.

“I have a high sex drive and usually masturbate at least once a day, but I’ve been busy and pent up lately. Being exposed is incredibly embarrassing but makes me so wet, I’ve really been wanting more encouragement and motivation to get a boob job and having gotten exposed and laughed at pushed me to want to save for one even more.

I won’t be successful if i don’t get real tits, and even then, people will still laugh at me because they are fake, which I deserve for being a natural born flatty. It hurts but it feels right to be humiliated and put in my place. Thank you so much for your use of me so far Sir.” 

What is the most unattractive feature of her ugly, flat body?

Let her know how ugly and inferior she is in the comments. Let’s make sure she realizes that even with fake tits, everyone will still realize how worthless she is.

Do you want to find out if your tits are as small and ugly as hers? Then it’s time to submit pictures and get exposed

64 – Her chest is so flat that she was called ironing board at school (part 2)

Flat-chested blonde is lifting her top to expose her non-existent tits and rock hard nipples
When real women lift their tops, their tits appear – when this flatty lifts it, all one can see are two nipples and a birthmark

In the last post, flatty 64 already admitted that she doesn’t have any tits and deserves to be laughed at and ridiculed.

In this post, it is time to learn more about her inadequacies as a “woman” and the bullying and humiliation she rightfully had to suffer as a consequence.

With her birthmark, it’s almost impossible to tell where her actual tits are

Flat-chested woman gets aroused and wet from having her tits put on display
Even her constantly hard nipples fail to draw any attention to her flat chest

But before learning more about the humiliating experiences from her past, it is important to analyze her inadequate looks in more detail.

The funniest thing about her tits is the birthmark that she has above the nipple on her right tit in the picture.

The birthmark is almost the exact same size as her nipple, and it is also in the same position, just a little bit higher. Because it is darker than her nipples and her actual tits are completely shapeless, at first sight, her birth mark looks like her real nipple.

The only reason that one is able to tell her “tits” start much lower is the fact that, luckily for her, she only has one birthmark, and not two. Otherwise, her real tits would be completely invisible on pictures.

What other deficiencies and unattractive parts of her body do you find particularly hilarious?

Do you want to find out if your tits look as ridiculous as those of flatty 64? Then it’s time to submit pictures and get exposed

“On a school trip, I was called ironing board Kim by the boys”

Flat-chested woman standing next to an ironing board with humiliating writing on her body
The only thing flat-chested women are good for is as ironing boards

Let’s find out more about her most humiliating experiences in her own words.

What is the most embarrassing/humiliating experience you ever had with your tiny “tits”? 

“There are several. On a school trip, when I was 17 or so, I was called Ironing Board Kim by the boys. And once a man, when I undressed in front of him, said that he would not have thought that my tits are so small and that he is no longer interested in me because of them.”

How did you react and feel when they called you ironing board Kim? How did the other girls react?

“I was pretty pissed off and said something like ‘not even hair on your cocks yet, but big talk.’ The other girls were giggling, of course. I drowned my frustration in red wine.”

What happened when you undressed, did the man just leave, how did you feel? 

“We kissed and cuddled a little. Then we slowly undressed. When I took off my bra, I could immediately see from his look that it was not what he wanted to see. He then said that he wants to be honest, that he likes bigger breasts and that he could not continue. That was a very intense situation for me. I felt really ashamed.

Let’s hope that her school mates would enjoy seeing her exposed and humiliated online next to an ironing board

Blonde with tiny breasts has written "ironing board" on her tits because that is how she was called in high school
Flatty 64 has written “ironing board” on her flat chest

How would you have reacted if you took a woman home and then suddenly realized that she doesn’t have any tits? How would you react and feel if you discovered one of the flatties from your class exposed and humiliated online, with the nickname you gave her written on her “tits”?

Share your thoughts, ideas and insults in the comments.

64 – “Because I have no tits, I have to be laughed at”

A flatty is trying to pull-off a hot, white dress, and fails completely
Even when she is dressed and is putting on a “sexy” outfit, it’s clear that this blonde has no tits at all

In ordinary life, women put on sexy dresses to show off their hot bodies and their perky, voluptuous tits.

Seeing them in a hot outfit, or, later on, in playful lingerie, stimulates the viewers’ mind and fantasy.

Not so for flatties – especially those that want to know if their tits are too small and get exposed on smalltitshumiliation.com.

In the first message they send, they already expose their tiny or even completely non-existent tits. There is nothing left to the fantasy and I know how ugly and inadequate their tits are before I send them the first reply.

Few things are more hilarious than flat-chested women in “hot” outfits

Falt-chested woman wearing a "sexy" outfit that looks completely hideous due to her non-existent tits
There is absolutely no reason for this outfit to include any cups – there is nothing underneath them, other than two nipples hard from embarrassment and shame

Nonetheless, I often ask them for pictures in sexy outfits. Not because it looks hot, but because I want to have a laugh at their expense and fuck with their minds.

It is quite entertaining to see what these flatties consider to be “sexy”. 64 is a perfect example of this. She put on a white dress, under which she looks completely flat.

Even in her black, see-through underwear, one cannot see anything. The reason is simple: there is nothing there. She is completely flat and lacks even the smallest resemblance of tits.

Because I have no tits, I have to be laughed at.

Flatty 64

“Most girls got real breasts, but I didn’t”

Flatty 63 is lying down in what is supposed to be sexy underwear and looks completely ridiculous
Even in this white underwear that is almost as see-through as it gets, the place where women usually have tits remains completely flat, unattractive, and boring

At least, flatty 64 knows how flat she is. Find out a bit more about her in her own words:

How old are you? 

“I am 25 years old.”

What is your bra size? 

“European size 75A.”

When was the first time you realized that your tits are smaller than they should be? 

“That was at school, at the age of 14, when most girls got real breasts, even those who were flat before.”

Share your thoughts and ideas for insulting nicknames in the comments

With tiny tits like hers, it is no wonder that she soon became a victim of bullying and humiliating comments by the boys in her school.

Can you guess what her nickname was? What would you have called a flatty like her in high school if you didn’t care about hurting her feelings?

Share your thoughts and insults in the comments. In one of the future posts, her real nickname (and non-existent tits) will be revealed.

63 – “People make fun of them and call them snoopy tits”

Her “tits” are completely gone when covered by her tits

Flatty 63 is special in three ways: she is especially flat, her tits are particularly ugly and she is so desperate and horny that she is digging her own grave with her stupidity.

Let’s start with the first point.

As you can see on the picture with her hands covering her “tits”, she doesn’t have any tits whatsoever – there is not even the tiniest shadow or hint that this might just potentially be the body of a woman, and not a man.

Tuberous tits with large areola and ridiculously looking nipple piercings

When she is not covering her ugly chest, she looks even uglier

Point two: the tiny, tiny part of her “tits” that does exist is ridiculously ugly. The only good thing is that she already knows that.

I recently learned that I have tuberous breasts, which is rare and not much research has been done on it, but people make fun of them and call them snoopy tits.

– Flatty 63

The list of her tits’ flaw is much bigger than her tits themselves.

Not only are they too small, they are also pointing too far away from her body, which looks ridiculous.

Her areola cover half the size of her “tits”, her nipples are not quite centered and the piercing draw even more attention to her ugliest body part.

The genetic flaws of her tuberous tits are clearly visible in this picture

This is what Wikipedia says about tuberous breasts:

Tuberous breasts are not simply small or underdeveloped breasts. The effect of the condition on the appearance of the breast can range from mild to severe, and typical characteristics include enlarged, puffy areola, unusually wide spacing between the breasts, minimal breast tissue, sagging, higher than normal breast fold, and narrow base at the chest wall.

Wikipedia on Tuberous breasts

Clearly, her ugly chest fulfills essentially all of these criteria and she is on the “severe”, not the “mild” end of the spectrum.

One could almost feel sorry for her, suffering from a genetic flaw that she cannot change – if she were not so stupid to draw even more attention to her body’s ugliest part by adding not just one, but two nipple piercings.

I got my piercings last year, I thought maybe it’d make my nipples hard all the time and distract from how large and puffy and droopy they are

– Flatty 63

She craves humiliation and kept begging for humiliating tasks

Point three: Since nobody wants to fuck a woman as “ugly” and deficient as her, all she can do to find at least some kind of sexual fulfillment is masturbate.

She already learned that, if she wants attention, she has to earn it by throwing her dignity out of the window.

And so she kept begging and begging for humiliation, promising she would do whatever I want.

Give me one more task and I’ll complete everything by whatever time you want. I want it to be as humiliating and degrading as possible.

– Flatty 63

“I’ll allow you to post the face pic if I do not eat the dog food”

Do you crave humiliation as desperately as Flatty 63? Then it’s time to get exposed

Yet knowing from experience how often flatties that get exposed feel so terribly ashamed after their exposure that they hide in a corner and cry for months before they eventually come back, I decided to change my approach this time.

After this post, Flatty 63 cannot hide.

If she does not complete her task, she agreed to let me post a picture of her face, knowing that this way, she would have no choice but to obey.

What is this task, you might wonder? Something that no person with dignity, and certainly no attractive woman, would ever agree to: to eat a can of the most disgusting dog food she can find.

“I’ll allow you to post the face pic if I do not eat the dog food”

– Flatty 63

Share your thoughts, insults and ideas for further tasks in the comments

Let her know what you think of her flat chest and tuberous breasts in the comments.

Be as harsh and critical as possible. This flatty has no choice but to read all the comments – and then come back with her next humiliating task completed.

Either, the whole world will see her eat dog food. Or the whole world will see her face. In any case, one thing is clear: that the whole world will laugh at her.